Welcome to The Jediism Way!

Welcome to The Jediism Way.

My dreams of a self-moderated community simply didn't happen, and the forum has now decayed into something unbearably ugly. As a result I have made the forum read-only. Be mindful when reading this forum, there are all sorts of people claiming all sorts of things on the internet, and the Jedi community is a perfect example of that.
I have no time to work on administrating this forum, and would rather spend the little time I get to have fun, or do something useful.
TJW will come back, and not only as a forum. In fact maybe not as a forum at all. I've been working on this for almost a year (a.k.a a few hours , spare time is rare). Expect more articles, more features, a better looking site and most importantly, much, much tougher rules.
TJW first fell as the moderator team was too big, JUSTJedi because Em wanted it to be "everyone's website". I have joined their ranks, with that bitter taste in my mouth.

signed: The secret admin guy. Although probably everyone knows who I am now ^^

Countless men and women amongst us, both common, and giant, have been influenced by history: historical acts; historical figures; and historical groups. Generals; politicians; and business leaders continue to draw also from fables and mythology. Chaucer's tales, brothers grim, Aesops tales, Homer's Iliad and Odessy to name an important few. These have connected with people in such ways as to influence groups and individuals to aspire to greater things. Our history owes many things to men's actions who were inspired by stories.

The community of Jediism today, those who connected with the stories in Star Wars, share the belief in an open concept of divine power known as 'the Force'. Many aspire further to the concepts in the stories, living thier lives similarly to that which they connected with in these tales, with many of those who, by extrapolation, are living life as a full Jedi in todays world.

Many people ask, how can Jediism be a religion? The definition of religion states that religion is a group of people who share a common belief. The Force is our religion and in that, it is not a question of belief in a God or not, for us it simply doesn't come into play as we believe the guidance of the Force will bring us to a course of right action. As a result, some have been guided to a belief in a God and others have not, but all believe that the Force will set them on their best path possible. We all walk our own path in Jediism. That is to say, none of us all believe and interpret the exact same things on many aspects of the Jedi path. On this website you will find a description of what a Jedi is and what it means to be a member of Jediism. Throughout this site you will find the foundation of the house, from there it is up to the individual to build the house on top of the foundation.

My funny friend and I believe that Jediism is kinda weird. 
We also believe that it would be kinda bad if each one started a war against each other.
He says it would be "so lame."

War is "lame" by definition...

This is sick. The fact that people would put their hope and faith in a series of sci-fi movies is sad. Do they have any proof of this "force"? Has anyone or anything actually ever been able to display it? I'm positive that there has never been nor ever will be. The real hope and faith we have in in Christ Jesus, not in some story book/movie series that was written to make money. This is unargueable in every sense. When someone pulls a light saber, or picks me up with their mind then you will have an argument. Until that day (which will never come) pick up a bible and read it. 

We do not believe in any magic. Not the one in Star Wars, not the one in your bible. If you think believing in the magic described in books and movies is sick, I suggest you look in the mirror and do some serious thinking.

Well Ren, that really depends on who you are, doesn't it?

I for one, believe in the "magic" of Jesus Christ.  I AM Christian after all.  I think it would be more accurate to say: Not everyone here believes in magic.  And for the most part, we do not believe that the Star Wars universe is to be taken at face value.

Randomguy.  I'll point you in the direction of proof that "the Force" exists: Walk into the nearest bookstore.  Find a book on physics.  Sit down and read it.  There's all the proof you need.  Now, here's the question, do you REALLY want to start this debate with me?  If you do, start up another thread and entitle it "The Force Does Not Exist".  I'll win.  And it won't take me long.

I am so happy that I am here. I am happy because I am a Jedi master everywhere.Laugh out loud

I for one, believe in the "magic" of Jesus Christ

Whoa. I have to say, I've been getting used to Volund's softening techniques. I forgot you guys believed all this stuff word for word. I never understood how Jedi Realists could bend things so much and get away with it (On a personal level).

The fact that people would put their hope and faith in a series of sci-fi movies is sad.

Actually, the movies and fiction are entertaining, but our "faith" is in the philosophical ideals espoused and made famous by the series.

Do they have any proof of this "force"? Has anyone or anything actually ever been able to display it? I'm positive that there has never been nor ever will be.

Actually, several eastern mystics have been able to use the power of Ki (or Chi) to perform what some would see as miracles.  However, let us look at something a little closer to home for you.  Where did Jesus get the power to perform the miracles that He performed?  Healing, transmogrification, necromancy (in the case of Lazarus).  Jesus was able to tap into a greater power which He used to perform such miracles as other mystics from across the world.  Not to mention some of the Apostles were able to tap into the same power.

The real hope and faith we have in in Christ Jesus, not in some story book/movie series that was written to make money. This is unargueable in every sense.

If you wish to get to the core of the argument, then you are following a faith which does just as you claim.  No doubt you read your Bible in English, probably the TNIV or NIV.  If this is the case, then you are putting your faith in a series of books (the Bible is not just a single book) which was written/printed to make money.

Originally, the Bible was hand-written by monks and were very limited in how many were made.  Not to mention, they were written strictly in Latin (with some Greek versions).  However, the Protestant movement began printing the Bible in other language in a mass market campaign to sell them and make money for their rebellion from the Catholic Church.  So, the Bible which you know and love was printed for the sole purpose to make money.

When someone pulls a light saber, or picks me up with their mind then you will have an argument. Until that day (which will never come) pick up a bible and read it.

I do read the Bible.  I am actually majoring in both Biblical Studies and Religion with aspirations to attend Seminary and become a Chaplain in the Army.  However, as with the Christian Samurai and the various orders of knighthood, I believe in the philosophy of the Jedi and follow it with my Christian beliefs.

Hello, I am Denduron Hawkfeather, a failed Jedi. I am hoping my past does not follow me here. I am a banned Jedi Academy student, but changed since then.
Here is a little about me...

Name: Denduron Hawkfeather, Kymeron, Fang, Sage, or Poet.
Real name: Not to be known to others, 'cept those who know me
Age: 15 (yes, I am young)
Weakness: If feeling pressure from others, will retaliate, among others.
Favorite Jedi: KADE SKYWALKER!
Beliefs: Christian, Baptist. Not a Jedi, but as all of you it is my goal
Background: Adopted. Straight A student. Future Zoologist.
Anything Else: Ask and you shall recieve.
 

I for one, believe in the "magic" of Jesus Christ

Whoa. I have to say, I've been getting used to Volund's softening techniques. I forgot you guys believed all this stuff word for word. I never understood how Jedi Realists could bend things so much and get away with it (On a personal level).

I would be very careful.  Normally if I do a post about how the Jedi Path and the Christian path do not go and and hand I normally run into warnings of all sorts.

I will say that the Jedi path i open to all, however some religions are not as welcoming.  I would post examples of this from the bible but I have been there and done that.

For me Reiki is a life path, as is the practice of magick.  This two paths flow well together, and they flow wonderfully with the force.  Unlike other "relgions" however I do not need to go to a deity to tap into these energies I can go directly to the source. 

I will however say that in all the 6 live action movies, the clone wars CG movie and the 2 cartoon dvds only 1 religion was acknowledged and that was actually Taoism.  The Master who was able to swim under water and have his light saber still ight had a yin yang for a belt buckle.  Is SW 4-6 they did lean more towards magick expecailly in ep 4

It does seem however these days that everyone does what to have it their way and I am not just talking about relgions.  People want to work out there way, walk the Jedi path their way, do this their way or that their way.  It seems that more and move often instead of individuals looking to change themselves to meet a path of life they change the path of life to meet their own needs. 

As it pertains to the Jedi Path your religion is your religion.  I personally do not think the bible supports christian jedi, however since I am not a christian this is not my concern.  When those who follow that faith go from this life to the next this will perhaps be a issue for them to face at that point and thankfully not my concern. So in short if you are a christian and feel that your path site will together more power to you, because again that fight was done too many times and they are not worth having again.  I could however post a few links to JEDI so people could read their outcomes. (As I wrote the notible passage of Christianity and the road to sithism I think that gives my own personal views on the subject.)

However as to the rest of the Jedi Path I personally think we need to stop bending the force to meet our lives and instead change ourselves to meet the Jedi way.  The Jedi were Jedi.  They trained to feel, understand and use the force.  They trained to protect themselves and defend others.  In the books and movies they were known for action first and talking second but in the real life people seem determeined to have it that other way around.  I personally believe that us words when they can be used but if action is needed action must be taken.  In the first Fate of the Jedi Book Luke is getting ripped a part for the actions of the Jedi order and their take a limb now and ask questions later so I thinik that actually fits my being fluid in self defense skills topics I speak of often enough. 

I do have never understand who people fight against reading the EU books, working out and taking a style of traditional martial arts.  Yes you could learn the same skills at a cage fighting school, however the discipline, dedication and many other things that are taught at traditional martial art schools are more inline with the Jedi ways then going and training at a fight school for a few months.  Anyone can learn how to fight but not everyone will be able to become a martial artist.

I sill would love to attend a Jedi Gathering in Las Vegas were those in attendance start working towrad some Jedi basics and requirments.  It may take a few life times, however that day will be the best day for the Jedi Order.IF we had some basics we could add to our programs as we see fit but those basics is what would unify us more then anything else.

Well Ren, that really depends on who you are, doesn't it?

I for one, believe in the "magic" of Jesus Christ.  I AM Christian after all.  I think it would be more accurate to say: Not everyone here believes in magic.  And for the most part, we do not believe that the Star Wars universe is to be taken at face value.

Randomguy.  I'll point you in the direction of proof that "the Force" exists: Walk into the nearest bookstore.  Find a book on physics.  Sit down and read it.  There's all the proof you need.  Now, here's the question, do you REALLY want to start this debate with me?  If you do, start up another thread and entitle it "The Force Does Not Exist".  I'll win.  And it won't take me long.

Ally just a couple of things I wanted to touch upon here.  Most people who practice Magic are the people like chris angel "Mind Freak" in the other community I am sure within your circle as with 98% of the magick community we add the K to the end of magick so those of the mundane world will know that we are not talking about slight of hand. 

Another thing that you may want to consider is instead of debating this with a winnder and loser why not view it as a discussion so you an see the other persons entire point and they can see yours.  After that you can find common group and build a open line of communcation where if you do not end up agreeing after the discussion is over you can at least agree to disagree. 

When you post things like you really want to debate this with me because if we do I will beat you this shows that you are looking to defeat the person not discuss things with them.  Challanges such as this also make topics hostel and turns a possible learning situation into a flamed out topic that gets beaten worse then a dead horse. 

Also not everyone follows physics as most of it is merely theary.  You can show someone that force exsist in 3 -5 seconds with out leaving the house or reading any books.  I am actually shocked that you mention being in a circle, you posted lessons about "the Force" and you never done this simple exercise to feel the force for yourself.

Now to feel "the Force" all you need to do is stretch out your arms all the way to your sides.  On one hand keep your fihgers all pointed out like normal with your hand held normally.  The other hand curl you and into a fist then take your pointer finger and have it pointing towards your other hand.  Now once that is done close your eyes and start moving your hands towards one another so they will meet in front of your chest.  Stop when you feel a touch or a push pull effect.  In most cases you will feel the energy you body puts out that is the same as "the force" before your finger actually touches your palms. 

You also get 2 metal clothing hangers,2 1/2 long pieces of copper tubbing and make your own dowsing rodes.  You bend the handers out completely.  Once done you bend about 2inches of one end per hanger.  You put that 2 inch of hanger through the copper tubes and you do not touch the hanger instead you touch only the copper tubing. you then hold them out infront of you at a individual and say show me so and so's aura.  while you are hold on to the copper tubing not touching the metal hangers they hangers will then start to seperate each going its own way.  Much like rabbit ears for those of us who remember the  days before cable.  After the hangers move a part you tell that person to either pull in as much energy as they can to make the hangers push out more, or you tell then to pull their energy in so close that they make their arua disappear in "the force" in which case the hanges will again more toward each other and if the person really knows that they are doing the hangers will actually cross into a X.

Now these are 2 simple examples.  One allows you to feel your own force aura, the other allows you to actually see the aura of a individual. 

Another simple of way of experiencing the force is simply by taking a yoga class.  During the routine you feel prana aka 'the force" enter through your body but at the end is the best time. During the final meditation you will be laying on your back with your palms facing up.  Most people during this time will feel little energy tornados that is prana aka the force entering your body through you palms.  You may also feel a simular feeling just below your navel and/or in your 3rd eye area.

Well that is it for now.  IF the person who started this topic about the force not being real would like to discuss this with me I would certainly be happy to do so.  I just hope that before we do discuss it you try one of these 3 examples first.  If I must I could record the first 2 exercises because I do need to make a new set of dowing rods anyways.  Actually Ally I would highly sugguest that you try the dowsing rod idea next time you meet up with your circle, it is is actually awsome to watch this and you will notice that the people who seem to be the unofficial leader of the group, the one that everyone seems to move more towards will "normally" have the largest force aura.

I would be very careful.  Normally if I do a post about how the Jedi Path and the Christian path do not go and and hand I normally run into warnings of all sorts.

I've been doing it for years and that's never been a problem for me before.

I don't see a problem with the mix of the Way of the Jedi with Christianity and, unless someone has a Doctorate on Christianity I with my lowly Masters of Divinity may be the subject matter expert on what different groups of Christians say and how the differ.

In my last Church I was assigned to about half the youth group were Star Wars fanatics.  I wrote a series of six lessons for the youth based upon the background info provided by Joseph Campbell and the book The Gospel of Star Wars.  We discussed the power of these iconic characters to transcend religions because they were drawn not from the "facts" but from the thematic basis and myth of all religions.

No, Star Wars cannot be owned by Christianity or any other religion but neither is it inimical to being a Christian Jedi, a Buddhist Jedi, or a Taoist Jedi.  This is because the myth of the Jedi is created from the common ground that each of these religions have.  George Lucas just gave it a name but I have essentially been a Jedi since 71 when I wanted to grow up to be some mix of a soldier, Knight Templar, and Shaolin Priest like Quai Kang Cain (David Carradine in his TV Show of the late 60's early 70's) "Jedi" tied all of these together for me quite nicely.

Rivan Elan, Jedi

Huh?  Who said I haven't felt "the Force" before? 0.o  To me, "the Force" feels like water in all it's three different states(gas, liquid, solid) depending on the situation/emotion it is trying to communicate.

I usually do add the "k", but I was quoting Ren.

A couple of terms to define here from the Biblical sense

Witchcraft (the term people associate with Magick in the Bible): Talking with Familiar Spirits.

Sorcery: The use of drugs to obtain a spiritual experience.


When pagans use Magick, however, the term has gotten to be associated with the two above AND prayer.  I would argue that an exorcism is the use of Magick as well.  Which is something that most religions endorse the use of.  Especially those of Abrahamic Descent (though I've never seen a reenactment of a Jewish Exorcism).   I would also point to anyone that believes such uses of "the Force" (by any name they so choose to use) is shown throughout Jesus' life, and the old testament.  In fact, even spoken of as gifts from the Holy Spirit/Ghost in the New Testament.

But I don't term "the Force" as Magick-I coin it to "the Force".  Although, I will admit, of all the terms to label it in this world, that one probably comes to the closest to encompassing all attributes given to "the Force".